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Do you prefer the forum width being set at 100%?

Since the Trendy Version was released, some users advise us to set the forum width at 100%, but we don't know whether all of our users prefer it. So show us your attitude towards this. Thank you.
Yes, I prefer it.(13)
No, I don't prefer it.(6)
I don't care!(1)
Date Posted: 10/30/2009 1:36 AM
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Most definitely, if it is set at 100%, it will fit all screen resolutions, you can drag the window to a smaller size and not lose any viewing capacity. There would be no scrolling. Message boards would be bigger, the side panel would have longer names in categories, so you could read them.

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(Message edited by TrixieJHnF On 10/30/2009 9:10 AM)
Date Posted:10/30/2009 9:08 AM
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It depends on if your talking about just this forum, or all new style forums. For here it might help users with lower screen resolutions to view the threads easier.

If you mean for all, then my own personal view, speaking as a forum owner and not as a mod, would be No, I do not think 100% is needed.

Many forums spend a lot of time selecting nice backgrounds to use and a 100% setting hides that background far too much.

I do think though that there should be a choice of settings, as there is in the classic style, so each forum owner can set their width as a % or by px, whichever they prefer.

Date Posted:10/30/2009 9:21 AM
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One point in reference to backgrounds. Once CSS is fixed and working, you should beable to place a proper background in to show, without hurting the width. It will make it more user friendly set at 100%, and should take care of the problem of only certain browsers being able to add content properly.

Not everyone has high resolution. Monitors, and Web TV, or phone access is limited due to the PX setup.

The advantages of 100% out weighs PX.

I too think Members should have a choice as was done in Classic Version.  If not possible in this Trendy Version, then setting to a !00% is a must for read ability, and viewing.

Date Posted:10/30/2009 10:00 AM
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I totally agree with Dev on this one
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Date Posted:10/30/2009 10:02 AM
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 After re-reading Admins post I'm still not clear on what they're suggesting, do they mean in all new style forums, or just in here?
For here and Diamond Support, fine, I've no preference either way, I'll happily go along with anything that helps the members find things etc.

But as I said, for my own forum I want the choice, so if a % option is going to be made available in trendy, it needs to be set up so that forum owners can set it to theirs, and their members preference, not fixed at 100%. If only a fixed 100% will be available, I don't want it as it doesn't give me or my members the flexibility we want.

But as I said, that's just my personal view.

can't spell today




(Message edited by develish1uk On 10/30/2009 10:36 AM)
Date Posted:10/30/2009 10:20 AM
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Even though I voted for setting it at 100% as opposed to a fixed pixel width, I'd also prefer the same choices as we currently have in Classic... either by variable pixel or variable %.  That gives everyone the greatest flexibility.


Date Posted:10/30/2009 8:02 PM
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 I agree it needs to be an option toi have px or % like the classic version.

Date Posted:10/31/2009 4:21 AM
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I agree, we should have a choice. 

However, if 100% suits all monitors/screens, hopefully it will look OK to one and all.

Babs
Date Posted:10/31/2009 4:28 AM
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I voted yes.
Working with precentages instead of pixels is always better.Precentages can give one uniform size to all, a sort of one size fits all kinda thing.100% on my wide screen is also 100% on a small monitor with any kind of browser.
And in this day an age where internet is made available on almost any appliance that has a screen, mobile internet on phones is the latest craze among the young, it would be more interesting for a host like aimoo to be able to use on anything.Kids these days don't care or want to know how stuff works, they just want to check their social networks on their phone any time, any place and any where. It's for that reason that blogs and such are so popular, it takes no scrolling.100% is fullscreen on any screen.
I don't know the market you're aiming at but it might be a thing to consider.I know if I have the option of precetages vs pixels I would always use percentages to control the width and/or height.
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Date Posted:10/31/2009 5:36 AM
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It would be nice to have the option to set the width as we do in Classic.  If not, anything that eliminates scrolling back and forth is a must-have.
Date Posted:11/01/2009 6:12 AM
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Then you need to post your YES vote in the Poll in the opening message Ersatz5.

Babs
Date Posted:11/01/2009 6:45 AM
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 The problem is Aimoo often fails to detect the correct with of the end users screen.  For example this page is formatted too wide for my screen, and I am running 1152x864, which should be enough pixies for most of life....

The new skin style is even worse.  The edit box that I am typing should be centered in the screen, but it is not, it's way over to the right.

Even with the old standard skins, on some threads Aimm's software fails to get the column formatting right so that the messages do not line up or format correctly.

Instead of making more and more funky skins and user experiences I think they should concentrate on the classic skin and get it to format correctly every time, for all users, what ever screen width they are running.  There are so many things in the classic that need fixing, we just don't need more frue-frue.

I don't want to be frigging with percentages and pixels. If I wanted to do that I would write my own software or get my own free copy of phpBB and customize that.
Date Posted:11/01/2009 1:29 PM
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Jim, when forums are set at 100% that then fits all screen resolutions. No scrolling. Unless the graphic in the Header Logo is over 500 px wide. Then if you want to drag your window down smaller, it will stop it from being able to do a complete drag down.

I often have more then one window open at a time, side by side. With a 100% it is possible, with Px it is not!  That's why all forums should be set at 100%.  User friendly for any screen resolution.

There are Skins out there that don't cause that problem with fighting with the Skin editor. They work on 100% too, and make the forums uniform and useable.

So if this is what you are looking for..then vote for the 100% at the top of the page, in the poll.
Date Posted:11/01/2009 4:48 PM
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Sorry Trixie but I have to disagree one point here -

"That's why all forums should be set at 100%."

what about those forums who neither need, nor want their width set at 100% but instead prefer to use a different size, such as 85% or 90%? If your suggestion of fixing the width on all new style forums at 100% is taken on board, those forums will never swap to the new style.

I do agree a % option is needed, as I've said many times since we first got a look at the new style, but I'm afraid I don't agree for second that it should be a fixed "one size fits all" option.

Date Posted:11/01/2009 6:13 PM
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Dev, I was stating only if there was no choice, and I do agree that there should be the choice of setting the Percentage, as in the classic version.

The point is.. 100%/and or percentages, gives all monitors the ability to not scroll.

If set at just PX, then no matter what, all monitors do not have that option.  As is noted with the way Trendy is set now. at PX. It is strictly set right now for high resolution monitors. 

Low resolution monitors, have to scroll all over the place, the setup is seen totally different. 

Just change your monitor setting to  ((>Right click on Desktop< >click on Properties< click on settings< >use the slider and set it back< to 800 x 600 or 1024 X786.))  Then come back and look.

You will see my point.  If Aimoo wants everyone to use Aimoo, then it should have the option to be set at 100% 




(Message edited by TrixieJHnF On 11/01/2009 9:50 PM)
Date Posted:11/01/2009 9:43 PM
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The entire style and program of Trendy version is totally different with Classic version. It's impossible to have the percentage option for the forum width in Trendy version except that you may set as 100% which is not offered currently. We made this poll to hear your feedback if you think the 100% forum width is a necessary option for you to have.
Date Posted:11/02/2009 12:30 AM
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Thanks for clarifying the matter Admin.

I think we should have 100%, which is what I voted for.

From what I can gather it would suit all resolutions and no one would get a scroll bar.

Hope I am right in my understanding.

Babs
Date Posted:11/02/2009 12:55 AM
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Babs, you are definitely right. If majority members think it's necessary to have 100% forum width, then we will add the option.
Date Posted:11/02/2009 1:08 AM
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 so it is an option of 100% or no % at all then?

sorry, while I still think a % option is needed to cut out the scrolling issue for smaller screens, if it can't be set to each forums preferred % it's not really going to help most of the forums I belong to.

100% is too wide for many, since it obscures their carefully chosen backgrounds etc., which is why they use 90% (or similar) in the classic style. This will simply mean that many forums, including my own I might add, will have one more reason to stick with the classic style, as it's more flexible.

Date Posted:11/02/2009 11:05 AM
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The point is Dev, the forums here at Trendy can, and should be set with either option.  Note can...it can be done so that you have the option of percentage at 100% or any percentage.

When set like that you can view the pages as viewed in Classic. It also give those with lower resolutions the chance to view the forum properly.
Date Posted:11/02/2009 11:13 AM
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 I agree with you Trixie,

a flexible % setting for width would be great, and would encourage more forums to try out the new style. I've been saying this all along, as it's one of the biggest issues we've seen from forums that have swapped.
But Admin has stated in their post #16 that they will only offer 100%, they will not offer a flexible % option like we have in classic. 100% is not going to work for many, so I don't think this is going to make that many more forums want to swap, they will simply stay with classic instead where they do have the flexible % option.


and I can't type today it seems, lol




(Message edited by develish1uk On 11/02/2009 11:24 AM)
Date Posted:11/02/2009 11:23 AM
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He could offer both, it is just a matter of the script writting really.  Adding it in to the script of the forum setup.

Date Posted:11/02/2009 3:06 PM
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I took it that 100% would be 100% of our own screen, so regardless of the size of our monitor, we would see everything in full, hence it would be unnecessary to have scroll bars because 100% of what we are supposed to see would be visible.

If you get my drift.  LOL.

I am wondering what this Forum is set on, because I have a big wide screen and I have scroll bars to navigate left and right.

Babs
Date Posted:11/02/2009 11:27 PM
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100% is a 100% on any screen, no matter what browser you use or monitor you have.

Percentages are a uniform-size and it doesn't matter what the maximum amount of percentage is that you use. You could set the maximum to 200% - which would mean the whole screen, or even 500% but most people tend to think that 100% is an indication of the whole amount or size.

It doesn't matter whether you wish to use 100%, 95% or 75%, percentages are a mathematical formula to divide a whole into equal parts unlike pixels.
Pixels are a fixed size that can not be altered. If you use a pixel size that is to large for a monitor you need to scroll, if it's to small for a monitor your forum looks like it's floating in space.

100% on my wide screen shows a forum divided equally over my screen just like 100% of the same would do on a small screen of even a monile phone screen.

Date Posted:11/03/2009 4:36 AM
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Pom is absolutely correct.  Creating a webpage that only works right on one resolution at one specific window size is foolish.  Webpages should never have the width defined in a finite number of pixels.  They will cause sidescrolling at lower resolutions (sign of a rookie designer) or leave voids on the higher resolutions. 

I prepared a test site *Edited*  to illustrate the effects of diferent settings so you can see the effects.  It is not on Aimoo and is for testing purposes only.  If the admin is looking, there are a few technical suggestions within the sourcecode. 

Even without the admin modifying the user editor, one can accomplish using 100% width and the effect of lower percentages.  He is correct about only 100% being the only one shot change he can make to the page as it is.  The test page accomplishes the effect of a smaller percentage than 100% by setting the percentage at 100% and then insetting the body margins half the diference.  I used the CSS on the actual Aimoo group we set up for testing to illustrate it can be done.  It is effectively set at 96% width. 

The tiling effect of the banner can also be resolved via the CSS edit.  Enter:

.head_img {background-repeat: no-repeat}

in your CSS section

The shearing effect many experience on some pages is caused by using divide blocks
where a table is actuallyt called for.  Setting up columns with div blocks demands all widths and margins be precisely defined and that the contents stay within those parameters.  Some browsers don't handle width: Xpx  well.  Other times a user posts something larger than the predefined sizes.  Either way you will get the shearing effect.  Tables are immune to both.  I put a control table in the test page to illustrate.  I do hope that the techs incorporate it into the template permanently.

We tested the stuff on a lot of browsers,  Would be nice if somebody that has a Mac or Linux system gave the tiores a kick with Safari.  Emulators suck lol.  I took the time to research this and am offering this in the spirit of helping to make  Aimoo a better place for all to use.  Questions... Feel free to ask away.


 



(Message edited by Karrier On 11/03/2009 11:45 AM)
Date Posted:11/03/2009 10:21 AM
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